The field of apologetics was much neglected after Vatican II. The Church opted to pursue ecumenism and a language of reapproachment with “our separated brethren” in the Protestant confessions. There has been much fruit in this regard; however, unfortunate side-effects have included a religious relativism and a toleration for religious notions and values in stark contrast to traditional teachings. It should also be said that certain anti-Catholics took this opportunity to attack with impunity our doctrines and to prey upon weak-minded believers.
The rediscovery of Apologetics has largely happened, not because priests and bishops became worried, but rather because of converts, particularly ministers, from the Protestant churches. They brought with them a defensive style of argumentation and put it to use in teaching and defending the Catholic faith.
Often they discovered that the caricatures of Catholicism which they had formerly attacked, were false strawman arguments, which the Church either did not believe or which had to be properly nuanced. When opposition was real, it was discovered by honest inquirers, that the Catholic Church was right.
I have thought that confirmation programs would run better if our young people were taught to proclaim their faith against offensive or loaded questions. This way they could truly show themselves to be SOLDIERS FOR CHRIST.
It is important for Catholics to know what we believe. It is also important that we know WHY we believe the things we do. Anti-Catholic groups will use proof-texts from the Bible to insure quick victories in bewitching weak Catholics. Instead of giving the Church the benefit of the doubt, or seeking out a Catholic teacher or priest for counsel, the bigots urge them to immediately sever their ties to their pastors and parishes.
I hope to record here material old and new used to defend the faith. It may be more useful for Catholics than those who hate the Church, given that the truly bigoted are often intellectually dishonest and difficult to move from their entrenched positions. I may also include debates conducted by friends over the past few years.
It is my hope that the face of modern apologetics will also reflect something of charity.
As a postscript, it should be said that some of the debate material here was originally part of my old Gehenna site that parodied with images of fire and devils a peculiar anti-Catholic fundamentalist mindset and approach to others. Thus, the argumentation, at times, may seem a bit “over-the-top” and even offensive. PLEASE know that nothing is meant to insult non-Catholics or to utterly dismiss the personal and inspiring faith in Jesus of Protestant Christians who want to live in peace with their Catholic brethren.
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Read your website about Anti-Catholicism. The inquisition is fact and the Catholic Church is to blame for the killings of so many innocent women, children, and some men. Furthermore, if you’d study history you’d discover the Vatican sent Jesuits to get Hitler to kill the Jews. But it’s obvious that you are so brainwashed by the evilness of the Catholic Church that you will never truly see the Light of this world or the world hereafter. And just look at how many priests are pedophiles and the Vatican knew what was happening and tried to cover it up but finally their little sins are catching up to them. I bet there thousands of children in Italy who have been sexually molested by priest but fear to tell anyone. These priestly bastards have destroyed the lives of children and deserve to rot in hell for eternity, yet it’s people like you who would defend them. I will rejoice the day that the Vatican is gone and all churches gone for they are all evil brainwashing cults.
Historian,
Nat
Nat, you may be many things but a historian you are not. I noticed on one of your webpages that you had pictures of kittens and claimed that there was no need to imagine angels because we already have them in the form of pets. Ouch! That was my “little angel” of a cat biting my leg…ah, not all pets are angels, and not all men are either, unless you want to include fallen angels. You sir, are a bigot. Look at what you write. You rehash the inquisition as if it happened last Tuesday, and yet stories about it suffer from exaggeration, and the late Pope’s mea culpas are forgotten. Jesuits had nothing to do with Hitler’s “final solution”. You insult me and castigate the entire priesthood because of a few rogues in collars. I cannot ever recall defending priests who abused others and so I can only surmise that you have some personal issues that need resolution and maybe therapy. You conclude by condemning all the churches of Christianity and exalt in the anticipated demise of the Catholic Church in particular. You may have a very long wait, given that after 2,000 years, the Church is still here.
Nat, for whatever it is worth, I will keep you in my prayers.
I have no idea how I got on this page, but in reading it- WOW! Nat clearly has issues, and has taken as fact many things that are completely false,
but Fr. Joe, I think what might have set him off was in your second to the last paragraph of your initial comment- your words could be construed by those looking for a bone to pick as implying that you believe all “non-catholics” are “truly bigoted.” Just a thought.I thoroughly agree with and applaud your comments on apologetics — I know I wish I were a little more savvy when the Jehova’s Witnesses show up at my door!
I appreciate all that you and your fellow priests do to help others in their faith journeys.
Peace-
Dear Maggie,
You are absolutely right! My words did seem to imply that all non-Catholics were out to get Catholics. I went back and revised my page here. Because of this, I hope you do not mind the strike-through edit of your comment.
Thanks for the assistance. I am afraid when I type fast, I make all sorts of blunders.
As for Nat, I suspect his comments would have been severe no matter what…I lot of anger…maybe fear…and more than just anti-Catholic, but anti-religion.
He does seem to have a gentle heart about the plight of cats, as illustrated by his webpage:
http://members.tripod.com/~wiz28/3.html
However, please be FOREWARNED to have current spyware to block the page’s intrusive cookies. If not, do not visit the site.
God bless you!
Peace,
Father Joe
Well, once I stumbled on to your sight last night, I told myself I would look at it more thoroughly today –I wasn’t expecting to see a reply!! I can tell from your other pieces I find here you are not only well-educated in the faith- duh! but a pretty good writer to boot! An occasional “slip of the finger” happens to any of us, especially when going fast on the keyboard. Fortunately for me, I can’t type worth a hill of beans so I have plenty of time as I peck out each letter-HA!
Thanks for the warning on the sight– I wouldn’t have thought about cookies — you are also computer savvy.
I will check back occasionally, I’m sure. Thank you for all you have put out here for our perusal — you just never know when someone may stumble upon it, as I did, and there is your “moment of truth” opportunity, as it were, for that individual. The Holy Spirit works in mysterious ways- but then you already know that-:)
God bless you, and keep up the good work!
Father Joe, A family member’s child gave birth to her expected twins at 26 weeks. Being in grave condition at barely over one pound each, I have forwarded information from the family, to various other of our family members, to keep everyone updated on the babies’ progress. This family began their struggle by asking for prayers and so all emails I sent include their request for prayers.
Another family member replied to me (in a rude and condescending way) that he didn’t appreciate the constant requests for prayers and
attempted to “teach” me about my rudeness by making an example of the aunts of his live-in mate. He said that his mate “has 3 aunts who are nuns, and not once have they said such a thing. They always say they’ll pray for people but always respect others and do not ask such a thing of anyone.”
I have learned from my non-believer friends, that they find it offensive for a Christian to say they will pray for them since they are non-believers. They feel it would be forcing my belief on them to openly state that I am praying for them, although none said that they would be offended if I prayed for them and they didn’t know it.
Based on this, wouldn’t it seem that asking others for prayers shouldn’t be offensive to a non-believer? If we don’t know they are a non-believer, wouldn’t the mature thing to do be to tell us and then politely decline? It seems to me that the person asking for prayers is performing an act that is humbling… admitting a need to another person and asking for help. Isn’t it rude and unkind to treat a person who unknowingly asks a non-believer for prayers, in such an unkind way?
Is is wrong for the nuns to ask others to say prayers for someone? I thought it was always good to ask others to pray for us, nun or not a nun? I suspect that these nuns he refers to simply avoid the issue with him because they have learned as I just did, that he will be rude to them about it.
Could you clear this up for me? I’d really like to know if I’m being offensive by asking others for prayers on behalf of this family… they want the prayers and I did not know this guy was a non-believer (or whatever his reason is to to upset by the request). Help!
Thanks ever so much. I’ve enjoyed your internet presence since the long ago days when you ran a message board! I look forward to your thoughts.
The Catholic sentiment about prayer reflects the corporate nature of the Church. We invoke the saints and beseech them to pray for us. We pray for others and even bring their intentions to the altar in votive Masses. While some Protestants believe that the living can pray for one another, some confessions have such a privatized faith that they insist that no one can pray for another– living or dead. This mentality does not properly reflect the practices of Judaism or historical Christianity and Catholicism. As Catholics, we even pray for the dead– the poor souls in Purgatory.
We believe in the power of prayer and our Lord himself spoke about where two or more are gathered in his name, he is there. It is not magic, but the efficacy of such prayer is itself God’s gift; and inviting as many as possible, can be a special occasion for grace and the miraculous.
If someone resents it, well, that is their problem. In this case you are praying for the babies and the family. You are free to ask anyone to do the same. We even pray for those who count themselves our enemies.
Every time you participate at Mass, we pray along with the priest who gathers our personal prayers at the opening Collect. The general intercessions are an invitation for all who are gathered to pray together for their various needs. Those who object to prayer requests would logically have a hard time with that as well.
Speaking for myself, I love to make rude unbelievers even more upset, by saying that I will pray for them anyway, particularly for their conversion. I cannot say what psychology results in the angry rejection of prayers, given that they can cause no real harm to the agnostic or atheist. I do have a suspicion that sometimes the negative or even belligerent reaction that overtures of prayer produce might be because we stir up something unseen and demonic. It wants to hide and prayer might flush it out. But, this is only my speculation.
I have to run now, there is a homeless man here and I have to see if there is some way I can help him. Catholic Charities has given us the usual run-around and the local shelter is full. What a mess!
Peace
Thank you for taking the time to answer so quickly. I think I knew all along that your answer would be just as it was, and that I wasn’t wrong or offensive to ask for prayers.
It is sad, because the person who behaved this way is the younger sibling of the woman whose daughter’s babies are struggling to live. How awful that he cannot find it in himself to pray or hope or something, for his own sister, his niece and his two baby great-nieces. I agree with you; what he needs is people to pray for him.
Thanks again. Your reply really made me feel better about the whole thing.
I’m sure you’ve found some help for the fellow who came to you, you’re quite remarkable. I hope your neck is feeling better, or if not, that it won’t be a lasting thing for you.
God bless you, I will keep you in my prayers too!
Father Joe,
I’m so sorry for folks who believe that “Priest” = “Pedophile” or “Homosexuals”. I think the media had a huge part of making folks think this way.
Have they not figured out that there are “bad apples” everywhere? Take for instance the recent sad case of Rev. Ted Haggard of the National Association of Evangelicals.
Does this make all Evangelical preachers homosexuals? Nope.
Misguided yes, homosexual-nah.
It seems as though the Catholic Church is “fun”, “fun”, “fun” to pick on. I guess that’s a good thing….satan wouldn’t want to bother trying to destroy that wasn’t the one true faith :-).
Anyhoo..we know who wins in the end!
Praying for you and all priests! The Godly Men and BEloved Sons of Our Blessed Mother!
(PS..10 of our 11 children are boys..hmm..perhaps priests like you will help INSPIRE our sons to WANT to be a Priest! )
Sorry for all the typo’s and incorrect syntax above.
Note: small children make loud noise and loud noise makes for poor grammar and many typo’s! LOL ;-0
(thought I wouldn’t want it any other way!)
Oh, my…I did it again in my “apology”
It was supposed to be “though” not “thought”
Oy. Ending now before I make an even bigger bafoon of myself!
GOD BLESS YOU AND ALL PRIESTS ;-0
Yea, I guess we\’ll see about that. I\’m not too convinced.
Father,
I have a question about the Rosary Promises —
Are they for real? The 11th promise says “You shall obtain all you ask of Me by the recitation of the Rosary” Well, what should I expect? My leaflet describing the 15 Rosary Promises has an Imprimatur from a Bishop.
I don’t attribute magical properties to the Rosary, but I have sincerely hoped that the promises are true. What is your view Father?
Thank you Father,
I sense that you view the Rosary as having no unique leverage - any different from other prayer, which have no “promises” attached.
Call me silly, I turned to that prayer *because* of the visible statements (promises) which coincide with its’ recitation. Same with devotion to St. Jude. I know, it isn’t a formula - plug prayerful devotion in here, and results come out there. But the Church gives it’s stamp of approval to the “promises”, not just the prayer. Doesn’t recitation of the Rosary, with hope that earthly probs - human conditions, qualify as “desiring what God wants us to desire”? Where does one turn when the Mother of God rejects your petitions? After prolonged prayer campaings, it isn’t a big step from denial of petitions to think God must want you to suffer, and maybe even conclude its punishment or rejection. Laudate Jesu Christe
Please go to the Catholic Encyclopedia of 1917 http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13184b.htm
for a complete history of the rosary. It is a very thorough and scholarly article which casts doubt on the most popular stories linking St. Dominic to the origin of the rosary. Also the comments on Bl Alan inthe 16the century are interesting.
Thanx to Fr Joe and you.
I am aware of the tradition regarding St Dominic, and the association of 150 Psalms with 150 Hail Mary’s in the full Prayer. Who knows? Yea, there is probably some overly pious folks who embellished some traditions long ago. There is also some info in the book “City of God” by Bl Ann De Agreda (or something like that), which the authoress claims is a dictated text direct from the BVM, detailing the entire life of the BVM.
My strongest glue to the BVM, even tho my sinfulness makes me unworthy of her promises, is that from my 30 years of amateur research of the Holy Shroud, leads me to believe she suffered horribly witnessing her Son’s brutality and suffering. I believe He spent many hours alone with His mom, and since He loved her so, that He explained carfeully what would soon happen to Him. He loved her tremendously, so much that he prepared her for the coming horror. I believe that since she knew absolutely who her Son was, that it had to be. Still, as a mom, she was stabbed in the heart.
cg
Father Joe,
When will the Catholic church enforce the Sunday Law and require everyone to go to church on Sunday?